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VOCALOID; a history youtube comments are not a reference

#181 Xey Oiz*

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 04:05 PM

View PostMini, on 23 March 2012 - 09:30 PM, said:

I was pointing to the Miku formula article, that is honestly, the stupidest article someone could ever write.

This a million times over, you don't know how many people have added "they follow the Miku formula" as their excuse to hate the new Vocaloids even though they look nothing alike or even sound similar.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 06:06 PM

So... A wikia is bad because it allows 1 article no one here likes? ^_-

we're retiring uneeded articles anyway and this one is up until we figure out how to put that information formally on a page. after Vocaloid: china the whole thing was getting messy on such matters and honestly... I was feed up with having to explain the whole thing every instance fans brought it up. I didn't want to keep putting the same boring argument in reference on every Vocaloid who got accused of being like Miku...

That STILL has no effect on this essay and irrelevent to how the wikia tells the history of Vocaloid verus this one.

And that doesn't change this essay here has flaws that need to be fixed and I feel like you guys are just digging at the wikia now to avoid the big issues with this particular essay. Rather then trying to have goes a wikia with a imperfect system of handling information, your better critising this essay you guys are holding hand over heart as a reliable source, properly more so then the wikia. As I said before, if you have issues with the wikia, take it up there, not here. I just turned on comments about a week ago to make it easier to talk to the editors... You have no excuse now.

Plus, you guys pick on this article... We had worst articles even before I joined the wikia. Those fanloid articles were a complete mess and most were of dead projects. It took us months to sort those and they only added to other probems witht he wikia to the point where the only solution was to throw them onto a wikia espceially for them and leave it at that to resolve itself. :-/

Not to mention we had other bad articles I recently delete.

Furthermore; unless you edit the wikia and resolve the wikias issues, you aren't helping make it better. At least that option is there. Meanwhile, back to this essay, it sits here out of date with information that even on older stuff needing to be changed... I am not going to speak anymore on the wikia outside of this post because as I've made it clear in the past, VO forums is not the place to discuss wikia business. So while your entitled to your opinions on the wikia and I'm fine with you doing it, theres a time and a place for it; this was not the time and I'm peeved Mini did take the oppotunity to take a cheap shot at the wikia instead of helping this essay's probems get resolved.

@Mini; I have links to information not here that are on the wikia... You guys want the links to improve this essay? Go find them on the wikia. I think you guys obivously don't want the wikias information, after all "its not reliable". I have no commitment here to supply the information myself.

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I cleaned this up for a bit.

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I'm not angry with anyone, et me make it clear this post wasn't written in anger, I was actually prtty relaxed since I'm used to everyone digging at wikias... I have been wiki-editing since 2006. No, I'm just disappointed by certain peeps, when the current topic is at hand is "how to improve this essay/what to do with this essy".
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Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:38 PM

I don't like or hate the upcoming Chinese vocaloids,they are not even released yet.What people are judging right now are theirs design.I'll make my overall comment on them once they have their own songs.So far,their avatars look nice and it'll be great if their voices are as great as their looks.(Miku is an example of that)
I guess vocaloid is becoming a truly worldwide phenomenon right now.
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Posted 16 June 2012 - 04:43 PM

This is what i searching for a long time!

Thanx... now i know the Vocaloid family tree
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Posted 17 June 2012 - 02:05 AM

View PostRya-Tan, on 16 June 2012 - 11:52 AM, said:

This is what i searching for a long time!

Thanx... now i know the Vocaloid family tree

This article is missing a few things just so you know, mostly the V3 era.

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Posted 17 June 2012 - 03:00 AM

Thread's been updated with V3 content. So it's now up to date. I'll be restickying it now.
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Posted 17 June 2012 - 03:09 AM

That V3 section is kind of rushed and confusing compared to the other sections... it's just a huge block of Vocaloid releases with little flow from one to the next.

(Not to mention that the pre-V3 section hasn't really been touched, and still contains quite a few flaws...)

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Posted 17 June 2012 - 03:11 AM

View PostFragments, on 16 June 2012 - 10:18 PM, said:

That V3 section is kind of rushed and confusing compared to the other sections... it's just a huge block of Vocaloid releases with little flow from one to the next.

(Not to mention that the pre-V3 section hasn't really been touched, and still contains quite a few flaws...)

Sorry, I know it is, it's kind of hard to re-call what happened, hopefully this won't happen anymore since I'm going to write updates for it when things actually happen. Also if anyone wants to help with that section please do, I'm going to be asking a few people for help but if you volunteer that's even better.

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Posted 17 June 2012 - 03:13 AM

View PostFragments, on 16 June 2012 - 09:18 PM, said:

That V3 section is kind of rushed and confusing compared to the other sections... it's just a huge block of Vocaloid releases with little flow from one to the next.

(Not to mention that the pre-V3 section hasn't really been touched, and still contains quite a few flaws...)

It's a WiP :V

I'm not in charge of it. I didn't write it. Cross wrote things very differently, so yeah it's going to be stylistically different. Cross doesn't really use VO anymore either so.

At any rate, it's up to date, it'll be worked on further, expect it to be a bit 'rushed looking' for now until it's had some more updates to it.
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Posted 17 June 2012 - 03:47 AM

Like I said earlier, I noticed a lot of flaws in the pre-V3 section as well, and it wasn't just due to outdatedness. In particular, I think that some of the earlier events have been described inaccurately, and a few sections are quite opinionated.

I was thinking of just rewriting the entire thing. Would that be permitted?

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Posted 17 June 2012 - 05:55 AM

View PostFragments, on 16 June 2012 - 09:56 PM, said:

Like I said earlier, I noticed a lot of flaws in the pre-V3 section as well, and it wasn't just due to outdatedness. In particular, I think that some of the earlier events have been described inaccurately, and a few sections are quite opinionated.

I was thinking of just rewriting the entire thing. Would that be permitted?

Completely fine by me. I was hoping someone would redo it anyway.

The only thing I don't want to see in it would be anything related to the miku formula that was being debated earlier a couple pages back in this thread. Since that's very opinion based and such.
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 11:57 PM

View PostSebastian, on 22 May 2010 - 01:09 PM, said:

Nice, It's like reading a VOCALOID Text book!

There should really be a VOCALOID Class in my school XD. I might just make a club like that now....if most people knew what it was

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