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UTAU Unpopular Opinions We might as well have an UTAU version

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 04:22 PM

Well, since the Vocaloid version is doing so well, we might as well have an UTAU version because I'm sure many of us have unpopular opinions regarding UTAU, I know I have plenty to rant about regarding UTAU and I'm not even a heavy user of the software

Ok here are some of mine
This might be just me but I freakin hate breathy and/or whispery UTAU voices, UTAU doesn't handle them well imo, Yufu Sekka might have a pretty voice but that noise the UTAU engine makes drives me fuckin insane, every time I hear a song by Yufu it always has that noise that kills the whole song for me, and I might be a huge Teto fan but her sasayaki voicebank sounds disgusting to me too, only Vocaloid so far can pull breathy voices well

I much prefer the slurrines of VCV to the choppiness of most CV voicebanks, that's why I almost never want to use CV voicebanks anymore, I need to work a lot on my UTAU cuz her VCV voicebank is pretty bad but I'd prefer an average VCV to an excellent CV


I have more but I'll leave them for later lol

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 05:19 PM

weird, i think yufu's vcv bank is much harder to mix than her vc whisper bank. her vcv bank at a high register (like, above A4, which isn't that high...) gets really noisy above 8500 Hz and it's hard to notch all the bad frequencies...i think noise is generated around the entire spectrum :/. her vc whisper bank sounds best around A3-A4 and is much easier to mix IMO. i haven't really worked with other voice banks but from what i've seen it seems possible to make a vc bank sound pretty smooth with good envelope work. there's plenty of vc yufu songs that sound really smooth. the only thing i dont like about yufu's vc bank is her だs sound really weird. you can hear it in almost every vc yufu song.

and i think the voicer of yufu said that there will be a vcv whisper bank coming soon.

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 05:27 PM

Badly-made VCV otos just bug me. As of now, Teto just pwns the other VCV voicebanks on my hard drive.
Why?
Because most of these voicebanks have otos with( mostly) premade otos. VCV UTAUloids with premade parameters doesn't sound as smooth as Teto or any other UTAUloids with custom-made otos. When I tested Yowa, she had a whine at the joining point of the 2 sounds, making it to sound unnatural or Auto-tuned. So I needed to reconfigure Yowa's VCV entries. I didn't fix up her oto fully.
Preutters should go in the link of the C and the V. And overlaps precisely at the end of the vowel.
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Posted 27 October 2011 - 06:34 PM

I don't really have a preference on bank type; it's not that I'm a newbie and know nothing, but that I know that people can make a good bank or a bad bank in any type.

I don't really like Utaune Nami or Hoshine Stella's voices. Stella is too squeaky, and Nami sounds too much like Rin to my liking. Their fans don't really help.

I'd prefer a good-sounding bank (with all of the sounds intact) with OTOs that need improvement over a correctly-OTO'd good-sounding bank without all of the sounds. This could apply to voicebanks of one type or multiple types.

I believe that, with proper OTOs and the right songs, every UTAU can sound good. Yes, even Nami and Stella--but they haven't reached that perfect song yet for me.

Sometimes, I prefer covers of UTAU songs over the original Vocaloid song; for instance, Miku's voice sounds kind of out of place in "The Beast", but TATARI's cover of it actually got me to like him because his voice sounded really good in it.

Yeah, I guess that's all for now.

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 07:39 PM

I hate a lot UTAUloids I've seen so far.

I also think that a lot of UTAU users are spoiled kids that get upset if you don't lick their ass... which is why I pretty much "quit" the fandom.

The UTAUloids that keep comming up look so unoriginal and boring. They're annoying as fuck.
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Posted 27 October 2011 - 07:48 PM

View PostOliver, on 27 October 2011 - 07:45 PM, said:

I hate a lot UTAUloids I've seen so far.

I also think that a lot of UTAU users are spoiled kids that get upset if you don't lick their ass... which is why I pretty much "quit" the fandom.

The UTAUloids that keep comming up look so unoriginal and boring. They're annoying as fuck.


^ This is a REALLY unpopular opinion. XD Way to go for speaking your mind and not holding anything back!

Hm.... I don't know how unpopular this actually is since I'm an UTAU newbie, but I think of Ruko as a guy and like him better in songs where his male voice bank is used. I ... Prefer to think of him as male with female qualities and/or body parts. I don't know... It seems to me like people think of him as a girl more often than a boy...?

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 08:15 PM

-i hate VCV banks
-Nami and Stella: Nami sounds badly mixed and unoto'd most of the time. Stella sounds weird and when i gave one of her songs some constructive criticism i got bombarded with abuse
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Posted 27 October 2011 - 08:26 PM

~I also don't like VCVs. I don't know why, I just don't though.

~I don't like Sayu Yurika's new design, but I love her old one.

~I'm not a fan of appends(ironically, I do like Yufu's whisper bank LOL).
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Posted 27 October 2011 - 08:38 PM

-Nami Utaune: Awesome Art but her voice is just...And The Design. Just. Ugh.
-Trap Utaus. I don't know why. I just..do? Probably because of how many of them were created and sound horrid.
All except of Ritsu Namine and Yami, of course. But the rest needs so much work.
-Mature sounding Female Utaus. They all sound so weird. But I have come across some that sound pretty good.

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 08:48 PM

Now to try and be delicate here yay.

1)I feel english in UTAU is possible and can sound good
2)I feel if you're doing an english bank try your best to get diphthongs in, they're used in far more words than you realized in songs, it's the slides in the sound that cause problems, and figuring out how to add them in is a bit of a pain.
3) I've had enough of shota/shounen banks, I know most overseas users are female and therefore can't make a guy voice but please just make them a trap instead.
4) We need more drag kings (reverse traps)
5) We need less drag queens (traps)
6) I'm still not quite sure what the difference is between CVC and VCV, or why CV VC is recorded VCV style then chopped up differently....
7) I feel the canon attached to some UTAU is far to complicated
8) We need more alternate lifestyle UTAUloids that aren't just for Yaoi/Yuri (aka more realistic interpretations of being gay/les) and lets not leave out our Bi brothers and sisters
9) I think there should be a few Asexual UTAUloid as well
10) Lets get some dialected/accented EngTAUloids. I'd love to hear an UTAU with a southern drawl singing

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 08:51 PM

I'd like to hear UTAUloids that sound more neutral-gendered.
And see some reverse traps, or even some UTAUloids that don't have an official design (a la VY1/VY2).
Also, more multilingual UTAUloids.

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 08:55 PM

View PostKaelem Gaen, on 28 October 2011 - 06:54 AM, said:

We need more drag kings (reverse traps)


i was just planning on making one! D:

View PostKaelem Gaen, on 28 October 2011 - 06:54 AM, said:

We need more alternate lifestyle UTAUloids that aren't just for Yaoi/Yuri (aka more realistic interpretations of being gay/les) and lets not leave out our Bi brothers and sisters


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Posted 27 October 2011 - 10:38 PM

I have a feeling we'll see some 'I think VIPPERs are overrated!' soon

Uh...idk, I guess the only opinion I have is that if you're not going to contribute something new to the fandom, just...don't make an UTAU. There are already enough high pitched females, shota, and the like.

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 10:45 PM

I can't really stand Hoshine Stell or Camila Melodia ( For accept her opera Voicebank )

I think calling an UTAU voicebanks " Append " is just stupid. It's a crypton rip off. I prefer they be called - insert name here- - insert type- Voicebank.

I hate when UTAUs that have voice acting are complained because they don't sound " Real/natural " well no duh. They're voice acted.

I think English sounds to robotic in UTAU. I do like English UTAU but I wish the software would have some upgrading for it.
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Posted 27 October 2011 - 10:58 PM

View PostKaelem Gaen, on 27 October 2011 - 03:54 PM, said:

5) We need less drag queens (traps)


No, I say we need more "drag queens" and less 14 year old girls with dicks.
I want to see a legitimately manly UTAU in a dress doing a falsetto, ok. Think of the movie "To Wong Foo, Thanks For Everything"
It'd be the best ever.

View PostKaelem Gaen, on 27 October 2011 - 03:54 PM, said:

10) Lets get some dialected/accented EngTAUloids. I'd love to hear an UTAU with a southern drawl singing


THIS
I also want a cockney UTAU please.


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• I am not tired of Matryoshka covers so long as they're well made. (Though I am tired of dealing with the UST)
• I don't think the be-all and end-all goal of UTAU should be to make a realistic voice, but rather, an interesting one. Not because it's an unrealistic goal, but because UTAU has so much more potential to do so many other things with voices (though I still appreciate the human-ish sounding ones)
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View PostMiraju, on 23 October 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

plz ppl I have Kikyuune Aiku_Fart append for Vocaloid-0 your arguments are invalid.

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