[baggagelizard]

originals. We need originals. I'm still working on the PV for my new Oliver original. We can't truly have a equivalent of miku (or even close) till we have a dedicated and sizable group of producers. With miku, most people who bought her were producers as there were not many vocaloid songs to cover. Now, many people buy the software solely to make covers. Oliver's songs are mostly covers.

We have a good bunch of producers, but We're lucky to get new orginals every few months or so. In japan, so many people write original songs that multiple originals come out every week.

Oliver has potential. Don't be all mopey and pessimistic. Oliver can be great. He might not be the miku of the west, but if one thinks about it...



If we don't have the producer base, the English Miku won't be the English Miku

Most of the people who buy miku will probably as well just make covers.

stop complaining and either write a song, ask your musical friends if they want to write a song. SONGS!!!! SONGS!!!!...

excuse me..

[Hightower]

^
Oh yes, I agree. He, as well as all Engloids, needs more original songs and fanart in general. I think that was how Miku got popular.

To be honest I always thought the purpose of buying Vocaloids was to make music, not covers. Which why I bought the software and Music Studio. I'm actually planning on getting a bunch of English Vocaloids and making original songs. My old computer has issues, but I have a new one.

[taegan]

Oh mah gawd. I luv Oliver's voice. Makes me tingle.

[Hide]

Nope. The Japanese-gone-English Vocaloids will dominate.
So, yeah, English Miku.

/stillwaitingforpeopletorealizeSweetAnnisthebestenglishvocaloid
Sweet Ann for English fandoms Miku!

[Edox Dorcha]

No way, Oliver is a really good Vocaloid but I always thought SeeU as kinda being our Miku for the Vocaloid3. I wouldn't really compare Oliver to any other Vocaloid anyway, though.

[Benimation]

You mean like, as popular as Miku, but then in the English fandom?

Then, yeah, I thought that might happen too.

I mean, he already seems like the most liked Engloid.. So he could easily become more popular.

Also.. some people still think Miku is the only vocaloid.. so if they hear about Oliver, they'll think his the 2nd vocaloid..

[Tachi-kun]

I think he's more of our Len

[MonoCha]

I personally that like Miku as Luka or the others but I don't think anyone can take her place o.o

[Alteria]

So far, yes, he's the most popular engloid (thanks to the shotacons, mostly. They're the ones who keep Len's popularity, after all). But I don't think this will last long. I heard his voice is not so flexible and hard to use, unlike Miku. It's not like Miku is good for any genre, but at least she's flexible enough and considered easy to use.

And, I bet english Miku won't be so popular in Japan, so we pretty much can expect loads of covers for her in youtube. Hopefully, her english bank won't outshine other engloids. And this might sound weird, but I have a feeling English Kaito will be the most popular once released... If they include him in Miku's Toyota CM.

[Kazuki]

Personally, I wouldn't want Miku outranked.(I absolutely love her) I will speak realistically. People have been saying Oliver's voice isn't flexible, even if he is popular in the fandom world and is growing in a fast pace, most people that try to make covers won't maybe pick him if they had to choose him or Miku. People(in general) preferably like to have an easier time handling something and since Oliver's voice bank is not flexible compared to Miku's they will go to Miku(not all but some)cause she's easier to handle voice wise since it's more flexible.(Even if she can't sing "every" genre)

Honestly, if they take longer to release English Miku and Kaito because they are taking their time to improve them it will make people want them more cause time can mean they might be "perfecting" them. So I'm hoping they are really good. Although, I am hoping Miku doesn't overpower the Engloids to much since they need love too, but I don't think anyone can catch up with Miku's high popularity otherwise.

[Jecyntaa]

I don't think Oliver will become "Miku". For reasons stated above. Prince Syo has a good point too (people who cannot understand japanese listening to Miku). Someone mentioned Luka... I think she's been so popular amongst engloid users because 1. her voice has that Vocaloid light, cute female "tone" (I don't know how else to describe it) that is prevalent in all the asian Vocaloids that our Engloids (even Sonika lack). That and 2. she also spoke Japanese, so it brought the fandom (specifically Luka users) a bit closer together so they could inspire each other. Truthfully, I think the Miku english release is going to be a flop... again for reasons already stated by others. If we're going to have a really popular Vocaloid to lead the fandom, I'm putting my money on the female Vocaloid 3 Engloid, I think her voice provider is irish or something... I just heard hearsay somewhere that something like that was being planned. Truthfully, if we're going to make a true english Vocaloid fandom then a lot of work needs to be done, not just marketing but in the production of voices that can be used to hook non-Vocaloid users. Unless one is more world/music/whatever-aware than the typical NA or English-speaking teenager then they are going to be listening to music that is prevalent on the radio and on youtube, ect.. Sweet Ann and Sonika are good, but they don't do that.

(Sorry, that kind of turned into a bit of a rant...)

[P-chan]

i wonder is it like this? lol
japan-Miku
Spain-Clara (since i noticed shes more popular than Bruno)
England-Oliver? o3o
korea-SeeU

[mickvin92]

Why not?
The only things that Oliver needs are good producers, good musics and good promotions.

[risse]

Oliver DOES have the potential to be a popular success. Sure, maybe not as big as Miku, but if we tried, we could actually get him up there. It just depends on Producers, like people have said. If we can get a producer (who knows what their doing) to make a song that's catchy enough or can appeal to non-Vocaloid fans it could actually start a meme, or even get people interested in the Vocaloid Fandom.

Though then again, Japan and America's Fandom cultures are completely different. Anime is obviously more popular in Japan than America, which is also why Miku had been likeable considering she's catagorized as "Anime" or "Cartoon" and is part of Japan's culture, seeing as all ages in Japan are familiar with and like anime, so they had no problem with it.

Where as in America, anime isn't in our culture, and seems foreign. Not a lot of people like anime, and think since it's a "cartoon" it's childish, and don't bother with it. For instance, when people who have never heard of Miku find out about her, people aren't as acceptable towards her than people in Japan because it's not what we're used to.

All I'm saying is, since Ollie has that "animeish/cartoonish" design and appeal, he might just get overlooked. I'm not saying he can't make it in popularity, I'm just saying a lot of people will overlook him. If that made sense? XD Sorry...It's hard to explain...

[P-chan]

there is really alot of pics with Oliver from our and even from jap side so he is quiet popular...thought he also needs more songs o3o