[Samuel]

I wanted to add my comment to ZK in the Daikanshasai thread, but really this need his own thread. It happens that while we're being scowled by SEGA's employees on their Twitter account for sharing the concert to those not lucky/resourceful enough to watch it, their legal department is busy shutting down the most famous PV of Miku on the web, linked by dozens of NEWS organizations and Blogs.

Yes, World is Mine has been removed on the request of SEGA, even SeyrenLK starts to be pissed off, that's the third time they do this. Lucky he is, his account could have been suspended with Youtube's three strikes policy.



With that, I repost ZK comment which was so appropriate and made a few hours before the idiots in SEGA's IP department started their scorched earth policy

zero_kbom, on 12 March 2012 - 08:06 AM, said:

Oh come on SEGA! Not this again..............
Do they want the Sapporo debacle to repeat itself again? And trust me, by having online viewing, its only going to promote and widen your target audience. Not only for those who watched it live, but also for those who lives thousands miles away. Plus, you will release DVD/BD of the concert in the end, and what guaranty that you have that those materials won't be distributed online too?
Embrace the fans for god sake! Make the leaked rips as your promotional tools. Yes, I do agree that maybe its unfair to you, but really, remember that Vocaloid franchise is all about the fans. Compromise!
And yes SEGA, that outdated thinking of yours is...well outdated!

Seriously the PR department of SEGA should contain the idiots who do not get the facts and still consider their fans and customers like bad people because they actually share this content, creating more fans. Don't these people read the studies that shows one after the other that "piracy" is INCREASING sales, and that YoutTube is the best promotional support for arts ever devised ?

I'm not that surprised, SEGA is a software company that certainly has not yet completely grasped the concept of Vocaloid and in big companies it's difficult and slow to change a mindset. But seriously guys if you want to enter the movement learn and change.

[Sandstorm77]

Can i say that this is probably one of the dumbest thing SEGA has done? Cus seriously all i can think about when i read this is WHY?

All this is going to do is:
1. Outrage the fans
2. Give SEGA a bad name
3. Give SEGA a backlash from the fans
4. Decrease the rate of new fans (since seems like a lot peoples first is world is mine)
5. Does NOTHING about the concert sharing

[Kangaroo]

That's really unfair. I know that the own it and all, but come on.

[Utatane_Piko]

actually, sega dont OWN the song. they only own the software to create the concerts avatars/holograms. the songs are owned by the producers. so unless that pv was showing clips from the concert, sega dosnt have the rights to have it taken down. oh, and i guess project diva, but thats owned by the fans. so if they show clips from there gameplay, it cant be taken down.

[Kangaroo]

ハスキー, on 12 March 2012 - 11:02 AM, said:

actually, sega dont OWN the song. they only own the software to create the concerts avatars/holograms. the songs are owned by the producers. so unless that pv was showing clips from the concert, sega dosnt have the rights to have it taken down. oh, and i guess project diva, but thats owned by the fans. so if they show clips from there gameplay, it cant be taken down.

Oh, that's right. So that's even MORE unfair.

[Samuel]

ハスキー, on 12 March 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

actually, sega dont OWN the song. they only own the software to create the concerts avatars/holograms. the songs are owned by the producers. so unless that pv was showing clips from the concert, sega dosnt have the rights to have it taken down. oh, and i guess project diva, but thats owned by the fans. so if they show clips from there gameplay, it cant be taken down.

Humm to be fair they do have legit claims on this Video, Although Miku is property of CFM and the song of RyoSony Music, Sega do have some copyrights on the concert and this video is a footage of said concert, plus they also have copyrights claim on this particular model of Miku.

Nevertheless, this is not a reason to ask for the removal of such an iconic PV. Mind you, this is undoubtedly some clumsy move by a IP/Legal clueless droid following a request by his management to hunt down illicit concert reprints on YT. But the very cause of this error is because the idiots in the IP department have not learned how Vocaloid works and are behaving as if they were hunting bootleg copies of their latest game... STOP THAT NONSENSE.

[Mew]

SEGA is a piece of shit company, no shock there.

[Utatane_Piko]

Samuel, on 12 March 2012 - 03:40 PM, said:

Humm to be fair they do have legit claims on this Video, Although Miku is property of CFM and the song of RyoSony Music, Sega do have some copyrights on the concert and this video is a footage of said concert, plus they also have copyrights claim on this particular model of Miku.

Nevertheless, this is not a reason to ask for the removal of such an iconic PV. Mind you, this is undoubtedly some clumsy move by a IP/Legal clueless droid following a request by his management to hunt down illicit concert reprints on YT. But the very cause of this error is because the idiots in the IP department have not learned how Vocaloid works and are behaving as if they were hunting bootleg copies of their latest game... STOP THAT NONSENSE.

yeah, i suppose. (tbh, i have one of thos fanart PV's for world is mine on my comp, with lyrics, as well as the concert peice. but my concert one has the logo thing in two of the corners, the companies involved and the green logo with the leeks sticking out. from the 2011 concert). Its a shame SEGA always act like they own everything to do with anything they have a little part of. *cough*w*****s*cough*

said logo in spoiler.

Spoiler

[Mini]

Oh guys cmon it could always be worse
It could be Capcom. If it were we would be buying parts of the songs via DLC and three exclusives versions one with a different angle from another.

[Somebodyrandom]

So SEGA presumes by the game they have the right to pull plug on World id Mine?

I don't know, its wierd becasue the copyright isn't held by them right?

[Gpop]

Wee Mini, on 12 March 2012 - 12:01 PM, said:

Oh guys cmon it could always be worse
It could be Capcom. If it were we would be buying parts of the songs via DLC and three exclusives versions one with a different angle from another.

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[Mini]

Gpop, on 12 March 2012 - 04:06 PM, said:

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[Leiru Lone]

Well i never know how to think of things like this... on the optimistic side this will all be resolved, the video will be back and most everything will go back to normal?

[TrueShadow]

I'm assuming this only applies to the concert video? It would be...idiotic if they decided to delete any World is Mine PV out there. They don't freaking own the song.

[Nova]

Oh Sega...your stupidity has reached new heights.