[Nikko!]

Engloids are a sparsely known group of Vocaloids that are capable of English, one of the most complex languages in existence.

Unfortunately, they're not appreciated as nearly as they should be.


What's your opinion on them? Do you think they're good as they are now, do you want them to be more popular, or do you think they're a lost cause?

It'd be nice if you explained your decision in a comment! : D

[Alphonse]

If I may be totally honest?

Engloids could be a lot better. I realize that it's not their fault that the English language is so hard phonetically to recreate. But even if it's not their fault, it makes them harder to use. Japanese Vocaloids are a better choice for producers in Japan than English Vocaloids for producers in English-speaking countries, simply because you don't have to put in nearly as much effort to get Vocaloids intelligible with Japanese. The learning curve is a lot steeper for Engloids. (Not that I speak Japanese, but I think I'd be able to transcribe a Japanese Vocaloid song a lot more easily than an English Vocaloid song.) I guess either Vocaloid technology or English recording techniques need to improve. Yamaha needs to step up their game. (And make more American English Vocaloids, seriously. The population of the UK is 1/6th of the population of the US and Canada combined. Even British singers often sing with American accents. There's obviously a bigger market here.) Also, I voted "I'm kind of indifferent". I like all Vocaloids (except Gachapoid) but the Engloids aren't my favorites.

And what's the difference between "I'm kind of indifferent" and "They're okay"? Maybe replace "They're okay" with "I dislike them" so you'll have a spectrum of options?

[Knight+]

What do you think about Engloids?

I guess they're okay.. I don't care for them that much.. Many people don't care for them.. The reason why they sound so diverse is because the English language ends in mostly constanants (however it's spelled.. It's all the letters that aren't vowels xD). Most of the Japanese words end with vowels, causing them to be stretched out and easier to say. When the Engloids have to say them, it's harder for them because they're so used to the stretched out ending vowels, making it sound a little odd.. Which is why most people don't care for them that much.

What do you concider Engloids as?

They're kind of in between, most people know about them but don't pay much attention to them, and other people just have no idea.. I'd say they're more unpopular than they are popular, but that's just my opinoin. *Don't shoot me!*

[Pomelo]

I'm neutral towards them, I don't really approach them any differently than any other Vocaloid. There are some voices I like (Prima, Miriam, Sweet Ann, Oliver) and some I don't like (Tonio, Big Al, Leon, Sonika).

Their pronunciation isn't all that great on a whole, but I get that's it's harder than Japanese, and obviously I'm going to be more picky since I understand the language.

So I'm pretty neutral about them in general.

[Maple]

I love them, but they're really hipster right now.

[Hide]

I'm very neutral about English Vocaloids.
I've only heard them sound very good a few times.
I only really like Sweet Ann. The others have yet to impress me.

It's more of the producers fault though. I don't blame the program or language.
It may be hard, but if you try harder, you'll get good results.

[Somebodyrandom]

I like them and wish they would be given more of a chance. Theres no sense in denying their difficulty, but since the majority of people don't know Japanese their there for those who can't do it. I think of Miku Vs Ann, Ann is the higher quality vocaloid, but Miku's the better Vocaloid. A pair of the easiest Vocaloids to use andyet Miku's still easier then Ann to use based on language alone. Ann is still capable of realism, despite what some argue if you read back to her introduction reviews she is appluaded even then for sounding realisitc on occusion, whereas Miku doesn't. But this whole thing feels like arguing if a old boot is better then an old shoe, or vice versa.

Every language has its pros and cons, with J-loids you have simple but limited phonetics, with engloids you have complex phonetics and a varity of sounds. These days with Korean, Chinese and Spanishloids, the whole thing of "English Vs Japanese" is a bit weak. Egfloids are getting more ppular over tie, but they need time to develope a fandom, the current fans are very loyal anyway, those we have.

The core of the Vocaloid engine is still the same though... And honestly..Time is the essence to developing the Engloids opinions. I showed soeone thatIco song by Oliver who wasn't a Vocaloid fan and had only ever heard Miku sing just two days ago. They were impressed by what they heard and said it wasn't bad for a robot. (argh, not really "robot"). thats still an achievement. And the Japanese Vocaloids are not everyone's fancy.

Englods are to me an way of geting more people into Vocaloid either way, the more diversity we have the more we can encourage the fandom to grow.

Edit;
Excuse the gramama and spelling, when I wrote this post I was half awake because I hadn't had much sleep the night before and it caught up to me.

[ninjamitsuki]

I want Engloids to be more well known.

[Benimation]

I hope VocaTone is going to make the difference.

They did fantastic with Oliver.

Can't wait for their next product!

[8-Bit Revolution]

To be perfectly honest, I feel like one those American who think their language is better.

I love J-loids, I really do, but something about not having to stare at a screen/look up lyrics to understand a song just strikes me as "good".

Now with that said, my favorite Vocaloid of all time is Gumi. However, if they made an English Gumi, I'll be all over that like sex in a porno.


Every Vocaloid has it's strong points. Language, pitch, whatevs c:

[Dessert>desert]

I like engloids. I think maybe there needs to be more advertisement and spread about them. But, I think that perhaps, more companies should step up to the plate and make new vocaloids. Take for example...a voice actor like Tara Strong. She has a versatile voice acting skills, and with the right advertising/recordings, could possible become popular. However, zero-g wouldn't use her. (Since zero-g is more profesional oriented), I doubt power fx would hire her, and I'm not too sure about vocatone. Basically, we need to show a demand for engloids, otherwise, they will be "the lost vocaloids".

[Howard]

Well to be honest... Japanese and korean (SeeU) vocaloids sound better to my ear than engloids.
But that might be because of their sound. Luka (Though she aint an Engloid) and Sonika sound better to ME more than for exapmle Sweet Ann.

[The Boss]

i love them but they could be better. i think Oliver was a large jump forward but theres still a long way to go

[sleepysheep7]

Well I really do like the engloids but I know deep down they will always be overshadow by the Japanese ones. Heck at times I wish that some of the Japanese ones had english banks because it is the voice type I'm looking for *coughVY2coughcough*. There are some that I adore, (Big Al, MIRIAM *though lately the girl has been giving me grief over ever little thing*) There are some I dislike, (Oliver. I tried, I really did but I just can't find a use for you. Also the over romanticizing pushed me away.) and some I'm pretty neutral at. (Sonika. When in the right hands sounds fantastic. I am not one of those hands.)I know that a lot of people will argue that engloids have a large learning curve but then again so do all vocaloid so it is not much of a strong argument. Guess Overall they are in a language I know so I like them quiet a bit but I know they will never become popular. Now if you will excuse me I'm gonna go put on my hipster glasses and go drink some Starbucks coffee to be ironic.
*shot..Shot a million times over*

[Kangaroo]

I downright love the engloids. Sure, some of them aren't amazing, but look at what Oliver can do. What I think is that a young and strong female voice bank will push the engloids' popularity from just "meh" to "pretty well known."