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Just wondering what everyone's thoughts are on using Vocalistener to tune and/or make VSQxs.

My views: VL is fantastic help for people like me who aren't that great at tuning manually. It's actually improved my manual tuning for when I edit VSQs instead of making my own. For a totally music newbie like me, it's a huge help and a great tool.

[Kangaroo]

I never think of it as cheating or anything. If it helps people then awesome. However, I don't like the sound of it at all, and 9 times out of 10 I'll click away from things that use vocalistener.

[Mr. Oshawott]

I think VocaListener has allowed users a new and simpler method of manufacturing songs and tuning them to their desired result.
However, despite it being out for a while now, I think it still needs more time before it's true potential is realized...

[v3xman]

I thought the idea was cool but most, if not all Vocalistener'd music I've heard were subpar compared to manual tuning.
But still, it provides a way for new producers without much experience in tuning and with good singing voice to create songs with Vocaloid.

[That VocaFREAK]

I think Vocalistener is marvolous. I use it with Len to learn tuning. I just wish it was Engloid friendly. (That means for you, Oliver!)

[VanAkita]

I think it is good for producers who do not have a trained music ear to catch the beat and notes for making the vsqx files.
The results though solely go to the producer themselves. It's same as MikuMikuVoice and VoiceCapture, only the raw results are smoother.

I think a similar result can be achieved with manual portamento and vibrato settings.

[_t.RainY_]

So far Vocalistener has worked out for me, more or less better.
COUGHNOOBCOUGH
Well I've tried it once and it got the notes wrong DAMN.
COUGHNOOBCOUGH

[D3V1NdaDOOD]

VocaListener is not rap friendly at all, I was pissed. t('-'t)

But hopefully a set of tools that aid in manual tuning will come our way for V4 or something.

[adys]

i would like to use it, but it's expensive and the results aren't that impressive to me, plus it's usage is mostly intended for japanese vocaloid so nope. I like the idea though.

[LaXandro]

I think, most of Vocalistener-ed Vocaloids must be reverse-tuned (to be less realistic). Else it kinda misses the whole Vocaloid atmosphere, it sounds more like human on autotune. I don't like humans on autotune except Jesus

[ａ Ｒ ｂ ａ ｃ Ｙ ｋ]

I love VocaListerner, too bad it's not used very often and it only sounds good if you have a good singer or someone who fits the song. Also I would assume it's a bad idea to make a VSQx with it that you're going to distrivute, well it'll probably still sound good for the most parts but it will have it's hiccups because when it does tune it's tuning for the VOCALOID used it for first, so some editing after someone receives the VSQx could be very helpful.

[Gīma]

I think that Vocalistener is an amazing piece of technology, it really shows how far sound technology has come. I would definitely consider buying it.

However, in most cases where it is used, it is waaay to good for itself. The vibrato and pitch bends are too strong for the voice, and make it sound really bad.

There are a few exceptions (Jullia w/ English Luka and Chocolate disco w/ VY1, but of course the raw voice data for that one sounded autotuned) but most sound really unnatural. It has to be a scuttle amount of vocalis used for the voice to have that extra emotion and beauty without dropping into an uncanny valley.

[Byakuren]

It's a good tool for producers to find different ways to express their musical art talents.

[Dessert>desert]

Can you use a vocaloid song simultanously with vocalistener, or does the recording have to be live?
If it has to be live, why not play a vocaloid accapela and use that?
I want to see more tests and trials with vocalistner, there is not enough of it.

[Kangaroo]

Dessert>desert, on 15 May 2013 - 10:07 PM, said:

Can you use a vocaloid song simultanously with vocalistener, or does the recording have to be live?
If it has to be live, why not play a vocaloid accapela and use that?
I want to see more tests and trials with vocalistner, there is not enough of it.

But then you might as well have tuned the song with the vocaloid you want to use. Having to tune another vocaloid just to get that one to sing like it is probably a pain. Actually, I guess that only applies for original songs, doing that could be beneficial for covers. But acapellas aren't so readily available, are they (I'm legitamately not sure)? I could see it being useful for me since I like to tune in UTAU over vocaloid, so maybe someone can do all the work in UTAU, render it out, play it for vocalistener and have tuned vocals without editing the actual vocaloid.