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What do Western fans want to listen to? We want more genres, but what genres do we want?

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 10:38 AM

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- Dark and/or depressing themes (Circus, Crusher, GHOST, EmpathP -since most songs are about heartbreak or losing someone I mean come on-)
I call that electric emo. emo referring to negative emotions. for traditional instrumentation electric guitar is not hard to learn, cheap compare to other instruments, and easy to record. punk is easy genre to make but even thought it us simple it take few mouth of practice to be half way decent. Also with punk poor audio quaintly make it sound more authentic, because it is the music of the command man. It should sound like recorded in your garage with cheap microphone, or recording it in your bed room with interface that cost 100 dollars with or less. also for guitars, an entry level electric guitar will do for punk.
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Posted 15 September 2017 - 11:41 AM

View Postxtraspicy, on 15 September 2017 - 07:07 AM, said:

people want to hear good music

Thank you xtraspicy. Westerners aren't "restricted" to any genre or style of music, people can, indeed, listen to whatever music they want, which is why this thread existing is kind of pointless imo. Just listen to good music people!
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Posted 16 September 2017 - 09:21 AM

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Thank you xtraspicy. Westerners aren't "restricted" to any genre or style of music, people can, indeed, listen to whatever music they want, which is why this thread existing is kind of pointless imo. Just listen to good music people!
trust me we are. people like listen to things that are familiar. when music not restricted to genre it sound like free form jazz. which sound chaotic. Also it sound terrible because the listener can make sense of it. for example some sub genre of punk have instruments going at different tempo than vocals. that kind of thing do not brother punk rock fans because they are use to it. when music genre rule conflict the more popular genre rule wins. so people not use to that subgenre of punk listen to it sounds bad to them.
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Posted 16 September 2017 - 10:23 AM

View Postspark300c, on 16 September 2017 - 04:21 PM, said:

trust me we are. people like listen to things that are familiar. when music not restricted to genre it sound like free form jazz. which sound chaotic. Also it sound terrible because the listener can make sense of it. for example some sub genre of punk have instruments going at different tempo than vocals. that kind of thing do not brother punk rock fans because they are use to it. when music genre rule conflict the more popular genre rule wins. so people not use to that subgenre of punk listen to it sounds bad to them.

>Jazz
>Chaotic
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Posted 09 November 2017 - 11:09 AM

I came to conclusion that vocaloid community wants to listen edm and not much else. If not edm then generic pop music base off edm or dark electronic music. It is getting to point everything sound the same. basically the fandom enforces my fears that rock is dead. That cause me going into panic when I started to make my music three years ago and just experiment like crazy and hope something sticks. Over time I have refined my style though. Very few people make the music I want to hear so I end listen more non vocaloid songs than vocaloid ones. People want engloid can do rock which was dex yet I one of first people who made real original rock song and that was year after it release which show how unpopular rock is in the fandom.
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Posted 22 December 2017 - 04:06 AM

It's worth noting that not a lot of western EDM producers actually make EDM. The norm is some evolution of an electronic pop style. If you want to do something different, you could try learning to make a more common true EDM genre like house, trap, future bass, DnB etc.

You could also make a different kind of pop, like dancehall (dancefloor? i cant remember the name. The Cheap Thrills/Shape of You kinda thing).

You could even blend an EDM genre with a pop structure, like DJ Snake or The Chainsmokers do.
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Posted 22 December 2017 - 06:23 AM

Electronic pop music will always be more popular in the western Vocaloid scene, it seems. Then again, the same can be said for music at large. It's not just a thing that happens with Vocaloid fans.

But as someone who's been following western Vocaloid producers for the last 4 years, I'll drop some albums which deviate from the norm, even under the EDM umbrella.

There are a lot of great things that unfortunately fly under the radar, either because the producers don't have an active social media presence, don't make PVs or because they don't use Vocaloid in all of their songs.

Electronic:
http://store.vocalle...-vocaloid-three
http://store.vocalle...lbum/hiatari-ep
http://store.vocalle...album/punchline
http://store.vocalle...um/first-sounds
http://store.vocalle...wesley-dreamers
http://store.vocalle...t/track/170-bpm

Jazz/Orchestral:
http://store.vocalle...net/album/arise
http://store.vocalle...bum/in-verbatim

Rock/Metal:
https://yzyx.bandcamp.com/
http://store.vocalle...nigami-folklore (and all of Hidaritsuu's songs)
http://store.vocalle...-tea-time-folks
http://store.vocalle...net/album/the-9

Rap:
http://store.vocalle...t/album/arigato

Various:
http://store.vocalle...ctive-sampler-5
http://store.vocalle...ctive-sampler-4
http://store.vocalle...sorted-vocanuts

Most of these are on Vocallective. It's my label, so I tend to invite the producers that I listen to :takoluka: Not all though. For example, YZYX is actually one of the most amazing producers in all kinds of music that he makes. And he's from Chile. In all of the examples above, there's a wide variety of lyrical themes. Not only dark songs, or interpersonal relationships (love, friendships, etc).

My suggestion would be make the music you want to, regardless of what's popular in the fandom, and if you need help getting noticed because you made Vocaloid bossa nova or something weird like that (shoutouts to de janeiro), hit me up. I'm empathetic to that struggle.
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